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- Info-Hams Digest Thu, 2 Jun 94 Volume 94 : Issue 613
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- Today's Topics:
- ** New England Ham - Electronic Fleamarket Dates ** June Update
- 440 in So. Cal.
- Evergreen Intertie
- Ham license plates in WA
- IDing
- LOOKING FOR CLUB STATIONS
- Midland 13-513 schematics?
- MSF receiver
- Reality check (was Re: Ham Radio few problem)
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- Date: 2 Jun 1994 23:55:25 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!spool.mu.edu!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!senator-bedfellow.mit.edu!w1gsl@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: ** New England Ham - Electronic Fleamarket Dates ** June Update
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
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- New England Area Ham - Electronic Flea Market *** DATES *** 1994 P 1 of 2
- All events are Ham Radio/ Electronic related except ~_____~
- *******************************************************************************
- 1994 Contact Source
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- 5 June Newington CT @HS Flea + ARRL HQ OH $20@8 $4@9A Al N1JWF 203 747 1925 F+
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- 5 June Contoocook NH CVRC 8A $1buy $6sell I-89ex7 John N1FOJ 603 746 4817 F
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- 11 June Hermon ME PineStARC BangorHmfest @ES $3@8A Roger KA1TKS 207 848 3846 F+
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- 11 June Goshen CT SoBARC @FG 8A $10/T $4buy rt63nr4 Sid K1SS 203 364 0480 F
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- 11 June Norwich CT RASoN Auction @10A @Moose x23rt2 Dave KA1LK 203 889 5025 F+
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- 11 June Brewster NY Pearlfest @JFKeS 8A buy$5 s$12 Shirly N2SKP 914 736 3010 F+
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- 12 June Old Westbury NY LIMARC @NY Inst of T b$6@9 Neal WE2V 516 462 5549
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- 19 June Cambridge MA FLEA at MIT Nick 617 253 3776 F
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- 17 July Cambridge MA FLEA at MIT Nick 617 253 3776 F
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- 23 July Nashua NH NE Antique RC $5@9 $1@10 @ Res Ctr Church Ray 508 865 1290
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- 24 July Queens NY @Hall of Science 47-01 111st Arnie WB2YXB 718 343 0172
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- 7 Aug Wellesley MA WARS @Babson Trim Hall $2@9 Barbara N1ICQ 617 329 2628 F
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- 13 Aug Charlotte VT @Old Lantern CG 8A- $5 su 3P Fri Dave N1ERD 802 893 7660 F+
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- 13 Aug St Albans ME @ Snow Mobile Club Rod KA1RFD 207 582 6125
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- 21 Aug Cambridge MA FLEA at MIT Nick 617 253 3776 F
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- 27 Aug Gardner MA MARC @Drive-in $5@6 $2@8 Bill WJ1Y 508 939 2643 F+
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- 28 Aug Fall River MA BCRA @Bank St Ar $2@9 $5/15@8 Tom WA1LBK 508 674 4163 T
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- 28 Aug Yonkers NY YARC John 914 969 6548 A
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- 28 Aug Vernon CT East VHF-UHF Conf FLEA $5@8 @Qual Inn Ron WZ1V 203-589-0528 +
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- 10 Sept Windsor ME AARA @Fairground Rod KA1RFD 207 582 6125
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- 10 Sept Ballston Spa NY SCRACES 7A $4-5 Ti147.84/.24 Dave N2FEP 518 882 6196 F+
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- 17 Sept Forestdale RI RIFMRS @VFW rt146 8A flea+auct Rick K1KYI 401 725 7507
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- 17 Sept Berlin VT CVTARC ti 146.625- Steve N1NPI 802 433 6172 F+
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- 18 Sept Cambridge MA FLEA at MIT Nick 617 253 3776 F
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- LAST UPDATE 6-1-94 de W1GSL P 1 of 2
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- 18 Sept Sandy Hook CT Candlewood ARA @Town bldg 8A Ken KD1DD 203 743 9181 D
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- 21-24 Sept Rochester NY Antique WA Conf Joyce 607 739 5443
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- 24 Sept Lincoln ME Bagley ARC @Burr Sc 2miN on Rt2 Ed WA1JGO 207 732 5185
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- 25 Sept Framingham MA @ HS $14@8 $10tg $5@9 $2@10 Barry WN1N 508 877 4947 F
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- 25 Sept Yonkers NY @Lincoln HS $5@9 $18/T@7 Otto WB2SLQ 914 969 1053
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- 1,2 Oct Boxboro MA NE Div Conv. Gene W1VRK 617 631 7388 A
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- 2 Oct Queens NY @Hall of Science 47-01 111st Arnie WB2YXB 718 343 0172
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- 7,8 Oct Rochester NH Hoss Traders @FG x13 rt16 $20@9A $5@3PM fri Joe K1RQG
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- 8,9 Oct Durham CT Nutmeg @FG Opens 4PM sat $5-25 Jim N1IZF 203 349 3353 F
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- 16 Oct Cambridge MA FLEA at MIT Nick 617 253 3776 F
- buy $2@9A sellers $10/sp@7A $8in adv $35/sp "Season Pass"
- 3rd Sunday Each Month April thru October
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- 22,23 Oct Waltham MA Photographica 10-5 $5 ~photo~ (bef 9PM) 617 965 0807 T
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- 29 Oct Nashua NH NE Antique RC $5@9 $1@10 @ Res Ctr Church Ray 508 865 1290
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- 12 Nov Plymouth MA Mayflower RC @Mem Hall 9-3 sell@8 Jon WS1K 508 746-0162
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- 13 Nov Branford CT SCARA @intrm sch Brad WA1TAS 203 265 9983 T
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- 1995 Contact Source
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- 15 Jan Yonkers NY @Lincoln HS $5@9 $18/T@7 Otto WB2SLQ 914 969 1053
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- 2 April Trenton NJ DVRA @Tren ST Col. W2ZQ 609 882 2240 D+
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- 16 April Cambridge MA Flea at MIT Nick 617 253 3776 F
- 3rd Sunday Each Month April thru October
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- 28-30 April Dayton OH F+
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- 12.13 May Rochester NH Hoss Traders @FG x13 rt16 $20@9A $5@3PM fri Joe K1RQG +
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- 21 May Cambridge MA Flea at MIT Nick 617 253 3776 F
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- 31 May-2 June Boston MA ELECTRO @ Hynes "Electronics trade show"800 223 7126 F+
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- 18 June Cambridge MA Flea at MIT Nick 617 253 3776 F
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- LAST UPDATE 6-1-94 de W1GSL P 2 of 2
- Source F= Flyer T= tentative early info + = new info this month
- A= ARRL J= John Roberts D= W1DL WR NV 73 CQ QST = Mags
- This list has been compiled from many sources. While we believe the info to
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- New England Area Ham - Electronic Flea Market *** DATES *** 1995 ***
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- 1995 Contact Source
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- 16 July Cambridge MA Flea at MIT Nick 617 253 3776 F
- 3rd Sunday Each Month April thru October
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- 20 August Cambridge MA Flea at MIT Nick 617 253 3776 F
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- 17 Sept Cambridge MA Flea at MIT Nick 617 253 3776 F
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- 6,7 Oct Rochester NH Hoss Traders @FG x13 rt16 $20@9A $5@3PM fri Joe K1RQG +
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- 15 October Cambridge MA Flea at MIT Nick 617 253 3776 F
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- LAST UPDATE 6-1-94 de W1GSL P 3
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- Date: 2 Jun 1994 22:44:32 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!netline-fddi.jpl.nasa.gov!sec396-news.jpl.nasa.gov!news@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: 440 in So. Cal.
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <2slc6j$kkn@sugar.NeoSoft.COM> jreese@sugar.NeoSoft.COM (Jim Reese) writes:
- >>True, but the ones in Southern Cal are happy with the paper radios. If
- >>not, then why are they coordinated?
- >
- >If this is truly the case, things should change. I suspect the problem is
- >no worst in California than in other densely populated areas of the country.
- >
- >It took the Texas VHF-FM Society some time to purge the majority of the "paper
- >repeaters" from the database. It doesn't happen overnight.
-
- With the loss of the bottom 2.150mhz of the 220 band (remember the 150khz
- was given over to weak signal thus costing 6 more repeater channels to be
- lost), the 220SMA has instituted the policy of requiring all repeater
- owners to re-register their systems every three years. Systems that do
- not exist or do not submit the required paperwork will be decoordinated
- and purged from the files. Should a frequency appear unused, they will
- not recognize any system which is not coordinated and will not deal with
- the operator of an uncoordinated system that moves onto that frequency
- pair until they vacate the pair. If you find an abandaned freq, you can
- submit a request for coordination requesting the pair; however, if there
- is another group ahead of you in the request line and they are in the
- same coverage area, then you more than likely will not get the freq.
-
- In other words, don't put up a repeater and then tell them that you have
- done so. They already have proof that the FCC will side with the
- coordinating body over a single renegade user. (I can't state exactly
- what the proof is other than that we were sited examples at the last
- 220SMA meeting.)
-
- Randy Hammock KC6HUR
- hammock@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 2 Jun 1994 15:21:22 -0700
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!udel!news2.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.world.net!news.teleport.com!news.teleport.com!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Evergreen Intertie
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Robert Smits (emd@ham.island.net) wrote:
- : jthart@csupomona.edu (Joseph T. Hart) writes:
-
- : > Please help. I need information about the Evergreen Intertie, a 2m
- : >net that covers several Western states (N. Calif., Oregon, Washington,
- : >Idaho, Montana), plus British Columbia and Alberta. The only place I've
- : >found this repeater network described is in the ARRL publication Your VHF
- : >Companion, but no repeater frequencies are listed. The Evergreen Intertie
- : >is not listed in the 1993-94 ARRL Reeater Directory, nor in the Western
- : >States Repeater Directory.
- : > Could someone please supply a contact person, address, and
- : >telephone number? I will be traveling to the NW next week and moving
- : >to the NW in two weeks.
- : > Thanks for helping, Joe (KE6GRS)
- : >
- : Hi, Joe. I was just reading the news - and listening to a net on the
- : intertie when I came across your posting. For more info on the Evergreen
- : Intertie, send a Self Addresses Stamped Envelope - #10 business size, to
- : Jack Williams, 4303 Maltby Rd, Bothell WA 98012. I have no phone number.
-
- Be aware that the usage of this system very structured and that any variance
- from the "offical" method often results in a lecture from an
- Annally Retentive Regulation Loving Kilocycle Cop.
- IE: 3-10 minute time limit, Use the system to contact already known persons,
- that is, no turning on the system to make a new friend in a distant town.
-
- Also, most network nodes are kept in the "off" mode. A code control cheat
- sheet is neccessary to enable the network for a QSO, and then disable the
- network afterward.
-
- It has value, but it could have so much more.
-
- 73's
- Gene
- KB7WIP
-
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 16:07:58 CDT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!jobone!ukma!news.cuny.edu!ndsuvm1!ud173191@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Ham license plates in WA
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Hello all...I'll soon be moving to the Richland, Washington area
- and I was wondering if somebody could tell me what kind of damage
- my wallet is going to take if I want my call letters on my license
- plates. Can somebody give me an idea?
- Thanks...
- Greg N0ODQ
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 2 Jun 1994 23:25:02 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!lll-winken.llnl.gov!koriel!newsworthy.West.Sun.COM!abyss.West.Sun.COM!spot!myers@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: IDing
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article oqg@bones.et.byu.edu, haymoree@newt.ee.byu.edu (Ed Haymore) writes:
- >Sir Hoagy (hoagy@illuminati.io.com) wrote:
- >| Don't go "This is AB1CDE monitoring 146.88" You don't *need* to
- >| say what frequency you're monitoring. To monitor means to
- >| listen for others who wish to talk. You're not doing it for the benefeit
- >| of the listener on a scanner.
- >
- >As was mentioned before, some hams scan a number of different
- >frequencies -- and the radio may have continued on to the next one
- >before the listener has a chance to stop the scan. Announcing the
- >frequency allows him to know which memory channel to go back to.
-
- Or, which microphone to pick up. If you a different radios for each
- band, like 6m, 2m and 70cm, you may need to carefully pick up the
- correct microphone. One friend of mine takes his radio in his company
- car, which has a company radio in it, too. Only a few times has he
- grabbed the wrong microphone, and neither the amateurs or the Highway
- Patrol dispatchers have complained. :-) He tends to pop out and tease
- amateurs that brag about their speed, though....
-
- ---
- * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ, DoD#: j | Views expressed here are *
- * (310) 348-6043 | mine and do not necessarily *
- * Dana.Myers@West.Sun.Com | reflect those of my employer *
- * This Extra supports the abolition of the 13 and 20 WPM tests *
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 2 Jun 1994 21:22:54 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.cs.columbia.edu!news.columbia.edu!tintin.cc.columbia.edu!fuat@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: LOOKING FOR CLUB STATIONS
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Another data point:
-
- Columbia University Amateur Radio Club (W2AEE).
-
- Email to: cuarc@columbia.edu (or w2aee@columbia.edu)
-
- WWW URL: http://www.cc.columbia.edu/~fuat/cuarc/
-
- --Fuat, N2YGN
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-
- Columbia University fuat@columbia.edu
- 703 Watson Labs 212-854-4804
- 612 W115th Street 212-662-6442 (Fax)
- New York, NY 10025 N2YGN
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 02 Jun 1994 21:25:48 GMT
- From: network!gobbel@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Midland 13-513 schematics?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- My wife and I have an ancient Midland 13-513 220 MHz radio that we use for a
- base station. It doesn't have a built-in PL encoder, one of the previous
- owners stuck on an aftermarket encoder. A couple of weeks ago it started
- flaking out on us. It will appear to be working--in fact it apparently is
- still able to receive the radar signals that the Navy so generously sprinkles
- around San Diego--but does not transmit or receive, at least not in the band
- it's supposed to be in. The problem has now gone from intermittent to a solid
- failure. I want to try to fix it, but to do so I need a schematic. Would
- anyone out there by chance have a schematic for this or a similar radio? Or
- even, has anyone out there ever *seen* one of these radios--it was given to my
- wife by a friend, we don't know who the original owner was, but it looks like
- about mid-70's vintage.
-
- 73's,
- -Randy, KD6ULI
-
- ------------------------------
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- Date: 3 Jun 1994 00:21:41 +0200
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!EU.net!sun4nl!hacktic!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: MSF receiver
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Dear Netters,
-
- I wonder if anyone knows where I can find an article about building a
- receiver for the MSF long-wave time-signal radio station, located in
- Rugby, England.
-
- Yes, I am an experienced builder of electronic circuits, but I don't
- have the knowledge to think up a good-quality receiver by myself and
- would thus like to look at some examples.
-
- TIA. Private email OK and preferred.
-
- Kindest regards,
-
- Frank
-
-
- --
- Frank R. Oppedijk, B.Sc. | Job: Novell NetWare programmer
- Internet: fro@hacktic.nl | At: NewComm Technology,
- | Zeewolde, The Netherlands
- Ham Radio: PA3FLV | Tel: ++31 (0)3242 5127
- Tel: ++31 (0)36 5348427 | Fax: ++31 (0)3242 5129
-
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 23:43:07 GMT
- From: news.Hawaii.Edu!uhunix3.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu!jherman@ames.arpa
- Subject: Reality check (was Re: Ham Radio few problem)
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <2sja4j$lni@abyss.West.Sun.COM> myers@cypress.West.Sun.COM writes:
- >
- >It is common human nature for insecure, unhappy people to deride others.
- >Too bad some have to cope with their frailties by condemning others, no?
-
- ``Physician, Heal Thyself.''
-
- I knew the Defender of Radio Lawbreakers would eventually surface. You
- came to Bly's defense in December when he bragged about operating
- without a license, and now in June Bly resurfaces and so do you.
-
- I will continue to publicly condemn those who intentionally break the law;
- if you choose to hid your head or deride me then you, in effect, are indirectly
- condoning their behavior. I'm very secure and very happy but I won't let
- that stop me from condemning someone who does wrong. I'm sure that
- you scold your children when then do wrong; does that make you an `insecure,
- unhappy' person?
-
-
- Now, concerning HF CW, to the uninitiated, DX pileups might sound as if
- everyone is jamming one another but there is a sense of order in all
- those hetrodyne squeals. Music to my ears!
-
- A CW station jamming a SSB net? Is it possible the net started right on
- top of a CW QSO? You would had to have been parked on that freq prior
- to the start of the net to conclusively call it jamming. It's possible
- that the two CW stations were trying to continue their QSO under the
- SSB net (maybe it was even a CW net that was there first).
-
- 73 Dana and good luck on the 20M rig!
-
- Jeff NH6IL
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 3 Jun 94 00:49:31 GMT
- From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!pacbell.com!pb2esac!jaminge@ucbvax.berkeley.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <vanwagCqLJB5.Myz@netcom.com>, <1994May30.111450.24376@cs.brown.edu>, <1994Jun2.160404.28172@llyene.jpl.nasa.gov>
- Subject : Re: 440 in So. Cal.
-
- In article <1994Jun2.160404.28172@llyene.jpl.nasa.gov>, laborde@kilroy.jpl.nasa.gov (Greg LaBorde (525)) writes:
- > In article <1994Jun1.002342.4409@pb2esac.com>,
- > >
- > >I can't resist sharing an experience with trying to contact the folks
-
- (snip)
-
- > >We were told in rather curt terms that no-code techs were not welcome
- > >there. (Something about not being able to copy the repeater's ID..)
- >
- (snip)
-
- > That is absurd! One of the control ops for W6UE is a tech, and all licensed
- > amateur operators who exhibit good operating practice are welcomed there.
- > A quick check of the callserver shows that W6UE is the club call of the
- > Caltech Amateur Radio Club. About the only restriction I have ever heard
- > is for operators to be considerate of the co-channeled repeater which has
- > a significantly overlapping coverage area. You either misunderstood something,
- > talked to an impostor, or are making this up. I daresay you will _NOT_ be
- > welcomed there after an insulting post like this.
- >
- > -Greg
- > KD6MSM
- >
- Well Greg, at least It wasn't made up. If it seemed to be insulting,
- it was not intended to be.
-
- So far I have received two pieces of email and three postings about it.
- The response from the folks affiliated with W6UE has been cordial and
- constructive. This was undoubtedly a case of one operator who was tired
- and just wanted us to go away at that moment. There are good reasons
- why they might want to limit any big influx of people, that were
- explained quite convincingly to me in mail from Michael Deignan and
- from Douglas Reeves. It's unfortunate that one individual, whoever he
- was, made the anti-no-code remarks to us.
-
- To the good folks at CALTECH and JPLARC, I say I'm really sorry that
- my comments caused you some public embarrassment. You don't deserve
- that at all and I apologize for it.
-
- -John
- KE6DTC
- --
- John Minger KE6DTC "Society is like a stew. If you
- Glendale, CA don't keep it stirred up, you get a
- <jaminge@PacBell.COM> lot of scum on top." -Edward Abbey
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 2 Jun 1994 22:41:10 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!sdd.hp.com!hpscit.sc.hp.com!hpuerci.atl.hp.com!narcesc!jab@network.ucsd.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <2sfofs$hg2@btree.brooktree.com>, <2sfrbj$1r8@misr-fsw.jpl.nasa.gov>, <2sh4p3$ms9@btree.brooktree.com>
- Subject : Re: Ham Radio few problem
-
- In <2sh4p3$ms9@btree.brooktree.com> roger@btree.brooktree.com (Roger Bly) writes:
-
- >law trespass). It is probably a violation of "right to possession" codes.
- >The owners of a closed repeater are damaged if I use that repeater without
- >permission. Damages would probably be club dues used for operating expenses.
-
- Hmm, I think it would be more of "theft of services", just like the
- satellite operators would like to enforce.
-
- Only there is a problem. How can you have theft of services for a
- defined non commercial repeater??
-
- We have had this debate a hundred times in this group.
-
- I will refrain from the detailed analogies that don't change anyone's
- mind anyway.
-
- It will be interesting to see if you can get a court to enforce anything
- outside of FCC regulations.
-
- Sounds like a waste to $$, and a black eye to ham radio to me.
-
-
- Alan Barrow km4ba | If a little knowledge.....
- Work: jab@atl.hp.com | is a dangerous thing.....
- Home: alan@km4ba.ampr.org | then what is the Anti-Dote???
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 2 Jun 1994 14:33:39 -0500
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!news.uh.edu!uuneo.neosoft.com!sugar.NeoSoft.COM!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <2sh2lq$b77@kaiwan.kaiwan.com>, <2shtbu$d8o@sugar.NeoSoft.COM>, <rogjdCqq72H.6u4@netcom.com>ⁿ
- Subject : Re: 440 in So. Cal.
-
- In article <rogjdCqq72H.6u4@netcom.com>,
- Roger Buffington <rogjd@netcom.com> wrote:
-
- >Agreed, the closed repeater owners would have the same rights as the rest
- >of us. They simply wouldn't have rights over and above the rest of us,
- >namely, coordination for a repeater pair on a closed or private basis.
-
- That's not what I said. The frequency coordinator must serve both the trustees
- of open and closed repeaters, as well as balancing this with the needs of those
- who want to put on new repeaters. If the frequency is already occupied, it
- makes absolutely no difference whether the system is open or closed. This
- frequency is occupied. Period. A coordinator can't let himself judge who is
- "more worthy" of a frequency. An attitude like this is guaranteed to get him
- sued.
-
-
- >The current 440 coordination group has abused its authority recklessly.
- >This can be seen quite clearly by the disuse into which Southern Cal's
- >440 band has degenerated.
-
- I know some of the guys who started SCRRBA. I don't think there's any secret
- conspiracy here. They did what was needed at the time. Times change and they
- may have to change, but they can't be expected to throw people off channels
- they've occupied for 20 years or more. Change must be reasonable.
-
- >True, but the ones in Southern Cal are happy with the paper radios. If
- >not, then why are they coordinated?
-
- If this is truly the case, things should change. I suspect the problem is
- no worst in California than in other densely populated areas of the country.
-
- It took the Texas VHF-FM Society some time to purge the majority of the "paper
- repeaters" from the database. It doesn't happen overnight.
- --
- Jim Reese, WD5IYT | "Real Texans don't let the truth get in
- jreese@sugar.neosoft.com | the way of a good story."
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